MEDIA CENTER PARIS
rue Chapon, 14
Meeting between members of international media present for the arrival of international marches to Paris on his way to Brussels
At the beginning we have been agreed to send to different groups of communication represented the minutes of this meeting for information. No decisions will be taken without the consensus of the participants of the collective communication.
Hector ast (Indymedia Asturias)
Toni (Com Paris)
Dani (Com Marcha Meseta)
Cathy (Com Paris)
Yannis (Com Paris)
Jean Baptiste (Com Paris)
Guillaume (collective Nomad-Bayonne)
David (Com Paris)
Stephanie (collective Nomad-Bayonne)
Mikifus (International Commission Barcelona)
Amira ( Video-journalist Warsaw)
Oli (International Commission Barcelona)
Laurent (DRY International)
Bernat (International Commission DRY-Paris)
Hector bcn (International Commission Barcelona)
International Press Conference in Paris
:::::Presentation of the participants:::::
1) who am I
2) what I’ve done this weekend
3) what’s next
1) From Asturias, Spain – Indymedia Asturias – Professional of mobilisations since…TV Professional for 8 years. He has a channel in Internet with videos in several languages.
Marching with and recording the marches since Irun.
2) He records with camera PRO (Beta) and with a DV one.
3) He’s here to change the world. He’s going to Brussels
1) From Barcelona –lives here in Paris, he participates in the acampada– Works in cooperation between acampadaparis and the marches. Also takes care of the twitters.
1) Administrator of twitter acampadaparis. She participates coordinating between TTS and DRY, from one side and between acampadasol and acampadaparis, from the other. She’s the correspondent, the person in place in Sol from Paris. She also helps the group of translators.
2) She’s here to cover the event.
3) Netx step are the coordination twitter Paris and national (from Paris) – with Laurent.
1) Not experience in movements before – He has been participating in communication commission in Paris: videos, web, twitter, graphic design…
2) These week-end I’ve been doing a bit of everything
3) Paris movement is getting down – we need something else or a new beginning.
1) Member of the former international commission, in contact with other movements in Ireland and Belgium.
2) He’s has been doing a bit of everything this week end – some interviews, France inter…
He has been the moderator of today group of discussion.
3) The 15O in Paris – he doesn’t know if he’ll be in Paris – he want to go to Brussels the 8 and then back to organise things in Paris.
1) From Bayonne – in the movement always since may – they had the Bayonne Camp – then he has been with the marches since Bayonne. He is in communication: videos, photos to put on the web. Documentaries in the capitals of Europe – (also with the marches)
Local coordination with French people – he’s in the group with several people from Bayonne.
1) From Paris – in the movement since may. He’s sound engineer – non a professional media, but specialist on radio programs, community programs. He has a podcast of Paris – the French podcast of Paris. Twitter on the march.
3) French mobilisation for 15.O – we have to build the network on internet. Focus on the European mobilisation – he has some ideas for that.
1) Bayonne – here to change the world. She’s a designer and artist.
2) Photos, on facebook, press
3) Walking to Brussels
1) From the International Commission Barcelona – to put in contact people from different places. That’s why I’m here.
2) Next: what the assembly decides – I believe in the collective thinking
1) From Brazil. He started in January with Arabian countries, then European revolutions, then he joint TTS– doing the network.
2) Spread the information – twits, facebooks, blogs..
3) Establishing net of activism
1) Poland – she was in Bcn the 15M , impressed and filming for 4 month – she wants to do a film. Then she went from Barcelona to Madrid with the marches, now with the marches to Brussels.
2) Information with polish press – large interview and others.
3) Contacts with press. Contacts with people in Poland, going to Berlin (invites Spanish people going there). Media conference: tomorrow she goes to present a press conference […] Grand Palais – association of international journalist. She’s following the marches with the van.
1) Press Relations Madrid – then to Terrassa, where he was feed up (localism) – then in Barcelona– he went to international press in IC BCN. Then she was alone (“on the road” went away). Later she started with the organisation of the marches going to Brussels – from one day to another. Then the Mediterranean march–he has been following the Med March). Coordinating assemblies.
3) He’s going to Brussels with the marches and during the weekend in Barcelona, Paris and coordination.
1) He started in Granada, he’s French. DRY international: he goes from local to international. Coordination communication national – international dry. Communication latin America, USA.
2) Now that TTS and DRY work together (there’s a common web page 15.O and we are in a common place of working). We have to show that we can work together, and give up our differences.
He has done an streaming, communication, coordination with France.
He’s animating a French facebook group: for the coordination of France (with 250 people more or less). We need to meet us personally.
3) The 15.O we have to be all together: DRY, TTS, French people, the marches… 15.O is tomorrow.
1) He’s living in Paris – he’s from Barcelona. In the international commission since may (now network commission). He got in contact with many countries and with “Bcn on the road”, and then with TTS. He also got in contact with DRY. He asked both to help the marches with the objective of mobilise and coordinate France. Then he was with the marches. He entered in the movement because it wants to change the global system.
2) A bit of everything – mostly communication.
3) Holydays and 15.O. French coordination.
1) He comes from Barcelona: international commission. He propose the IC BCN to the 15M AG in Barcelona. There is a global problem and we need of translation. Then he got in contacts with other movements and with other camps. Then he went “on the road” with 2 objectives: a) listening from the places he visits, b) sharing contacts, methodology… The people “on the road” we keep in contact. He stresses the importance of rotating positions, for knowledge sharing and learning. Now they know how to use the tools.
2). He has being in the coordination of the marches: meetings intermarchas, giving media support to the marches: admin of scoop.it, marchestobrussels.takethesquare.net, bcninternacional.
3) Being coordinated with the rest of the people in many places. He’s in contact with the holland, britain and spanish marches to Brussels.
1) We make a list. We pass the list on paper to the people present.
Mikifus: We have squares, we have walktobrussels. A new one?
David: Doing an European day convocation, for going further than the UE Parlament, for speaking about banks, finance – to get in the line with US. Going to BCE (ECB): maybe the 1s November (Goldman Sucks with the Italian Mario Draghi is going to the ECB. There’s a mobilisation about G8G20 the first (mobilisation 1,2,3 nov), so we would have two things at the same time. Maybe we could do it the 15.N to the ECB.
Guillaume: Sometimes we impose to big events for too short time. The marches are walking very fast. We don’t have time. We need more time, to be able in the future or in the short future to do a thing. For this and for being global we have to start developing local actions.
Bernat: 1) Promote the action/mobilisation “Take the net”.
2) The elections FR / ES.
3) Next primetimes will be very important.
Mikifus: Having more long time to prepare actions.
Héctor ast: buying a pen to have information of the marches
Laurent: Going to Brussels and find a good place to work – it’s very important. A physical place.
Dani Marcha: After Brussels we can do many marches: to London, East Germany, South (Greece, Italy). In London we could arrive the 5 Nov with the mobilisation in England. There’s a concentration (March?) in Strasburg also the 5 Nov, and other in Frankfurt. We can make it coincide with anti G8 mobilisations and contact with activists.
Proposals / conclusions:
Mikifus: the G8 and the G20. March to London.
Oli: Marches following the march. We don’t know where they go. Why don’t going to Frankfurt (ECB).
Yannis: 1) G8 and G20 (streaming and actions everywhere). And then elections – to be prepared for this.
2) Global internet idea “take the net”– no at state at date – maybe to short time.
Hector ast: I have to bring Pierro to the march. He’s in the hospital. I need some car or something.
Mikifus: Work together on methodology and o organisation. We do an explanation of how we organise each one and see what we can do.
Oli: Create an organisation team. We should do an international commission. We need more people. So, prepare the things: making a definition of objectives, bringing more people and organise. We need a common web of international commission and joining the people who work in international commissions.
Pedro: We had subcommissions. We have n-1, we have mail lists – not staring all over again.
Mikifus: We are working as a federation, and that’s good. We have to continue and develop new protocols. Maybe we don’t need a new platform. We can change it, as we want. New platform, too much new names for the people – they don’t understand.
Toni: We can do something specific: small platform to be connected between us – something little.
Oli: We have to much webs, twitters… We need something to receive all information. Like a scoop.it. I want to have just one instrument to get inform from all other, and to inform in all senses.
Mikifus: It’s not bad having many channels of information. You can have the information from different points. We don’t have that channel – resuming all. This could be “manipulated”.
Amira: We need to have a place to find “the” information.
Bernat: We have the international commission in N-1. There’s a directions in software design for having one software connecting with all others (and the control of privacy and information ownership). We have to control the proliferation on “fakes” in internet, especially when a movement begins.
Proposals / conclusions:
Laurent: Create a working program. Create a blog to start working together / public or not public.
Guillaume: Focus on a platform to upload information (and not going everywhere, just one place).
Mikifus: One software allow to joint several things – it’ not free – we should do new project of free software. Tutorials on n-1, to explain. “Yes we camp dot net” it’s a web platform. We could start from this.
Yannis: Rss feed, like scoop.it: journalist can see it, acampadas can follow.
Bernat: Doing and promoting French unifying web
Pedro: Where to get information – doing a web to international commissions putting information in a common space – we have N-1 … Use it.
David: 1) In France one web just for national events, and unify the network
2) International: one scoop.it it for each country and one for the entire world.
Jean B: A simple web site with the links: a simple point and then the link.
Hector ast: Speak with people that has the background to know what to do.
Amira: Create a facebook for Poland.
Hector ast: For building anything, in internet, we have to be in contact with hacker community and with what’s happening in the underground. They are the door keepers. They work with collective intelligence, building together and sharing information. With the normal firewalls, you are fucked. So we have to get in touch with the community. With whom we have to talk? If we have hackers, security it’s ok.
Gmail, hotmail are not good. One of the most secure is “riseup.net” – you need an invitation. We have an account. There we can build there.
We can get in touch with the activism: technological, environmental.
Pedro: I agree with security. With rise up account, we can create accounts, no problem. We can start to encrypt our messages. We can use a software that… With TOR for Mozilla, you can make your IP anonym but just for web. Also doing a private network – using “vpn” to redirect…
Guillaume: Repression in the streets shows they are afraid of us. They are looking what we are doing. They follow and survey us. For being success in Brussels, we have to have sure connections. We have to do it very fast. We can encrypt your messages with “pgp”.
Dani Marcha: There’s other mails, also. But better encrypt yourself. But with Skype?
David: There is a open source protocol “sp” to … even from skype – sp clients – no matter what software, but use this protocol.
Hector ast: Don’t saying key words as “squat” in the phone – automatic programs can detect us easily or randomly.
David: American movements in WS to prevent action with police there are people with transistor to get the line of the police, and then put these frequencies on the net.
:::::International Press Conference in Paris:::::
Amira: She send a dossier with information with had happening last days and she has met the director of Grand Palais. As the movement is not big, Medias and Press are not interested in France. But if we have something, he can organise a meeting in next days: international press.
Hector ast: We can explain the repression from yesterday, on the streets and the black out we have seen from Medias in France. We can explain better what’s happening.
Yannis: People of communication commission in Paris did a press release in urgency; ¿is it published? Where? We have to do a balance between images of violence (repression) and the other things. It’s not good talking just about violence. We have to talk about the meeting of the marches. We have to give importance to the marches. why they are marching, who they are, what they want. In Paris, (Bayonne and Montpelier) there’s problems with the police.
Toni: We can talk about criminalisation of social movements.
Jean B: What international press?
Amira: In Grand Palais. She has to give the proposal, she’s not sure about content.
Jean B: Not talk about violence; we have to talk about the project: why people are walking. We have people from many countries. That interest journalist- They’ll be interested as international press. They’ll ask: what do you want? What do you do?
Mikifus: Medias don’t understand “horizontal” organisations (there’s no leader). We have to explain how we work. They have to know that there are many ideologies, many people working, many directions: “collective thinking”. You can not take one or two persons or even the whole movement. They have to say people that people has to get informed by themselves. There’s problem with traditional medial – we ask people to be active with information. We have to explain our origins. What we do, what we’ll do, what we want.
Toni: There is the objective of criminalisation of social movements, because information/medias focus on that. 2) We need of own medias, our social medias, 3) explaining our horizontal movement.
David: Who is going for the movement? Defend the point that it’s internationalising. We have several people from several countries. Why don’t we (they) have live contacts with other countries? This could help the power of this movement. We get connected around the world. This would be pedagogic, educative.
Repression: not focus on negative points. But use repression to show that this movement is very powerful. The French state is really frightened. The repression is a measure of it.
Pedro: We have to make clear which are the main points of the movements. We have to criticise police repression, the boycott of mainstream media. And we have to link the revolution to social situation.
Hector ast: We are lucky to have this opportunity – any subject to be invited. We could go there with all the march. It’d be a kind of action.
Amira: We don’t know when the March is going to Brussels.
Guillaume: We are international movement. It’s a possibility to present us well, to give credibility to the movement. They say we are not coordinated; it’s time to show the contrary. Focus on positive points. Not boycott media, violence. – Present well.
Amira: I need something to explain. Why, where? What’s the state of the movement?
Stephanie: We are going there to explain what we are. Saying that’s our own voice.
Amira: Tomorrow the proposition
Hector Bcn: 3 points: 1) describe our horizontal ways to communicate, and then thank them (Medias) to give us the absolute freedom to talk about our movement (ironical b’cause they never pay attention in us); 2) Global calendar, 3) About the marches: they are doing the memory of one part of the movement: talk about the demands from the local to the global points. Book of the villages, minutes, etc.
Mikifus: Social media and the movement. How internet is helping the movement. How we use the social media to spread the information. Why the information is better.
Amira: I’m not agree with that. They talk about facebook revolution, not a people revolution.
Mikifus: How we use the tools.
David: I agree with Amira. Not focus on social media – they will ask the question. The point is explain them is that the best social network media is the street, the assemblies. That’s new in our society, but internet is a tool.
Pedro: If we do nothing about the social Medias, they are going to make censure on it. So that’s why talk about it.
Amira: It’s obvious.
Jean B: Social net is really useful, but media are speaking about us because we are in the street. If we want everybody, we have to go to the street. The net is for young people. Of course, social net is important, but the point is that “taking the street, the square”.
Oli: We can do a working group. Or I can go with her.
Guillaume: Not forgot things on the street. I spend a lot of time with the computer. The link between the street and the net is important: the importance of human contact.
David: In this movement we need all kind of skills, internet, streets. Everybody can participate. All competences are needed.
Bernat: 1) Even is an international meeting press, we should also talk about the French case. There was a beginning of “revolution” in France at May/June, but because of lack of coordination, experience, contacts and the black out of Medias, it did not take. So now we are back and we are wiser.
2) Do not explain the beginning of the movement with Spain. It’s something global. We don’t know exactly when it begun. The case of Spain is just an (important) case.
3) Social networks and the net are very important, but they are tools. These tools allow us to do the same that societies could already do before, but quicker and easier. What have changed are mentalities. New generations have grown up in a global world. We feel the need to communicate and work together globally.
MEDIA CENTER BRUSSELS
[08-14 october 2011]